republicans say taxes is off the table and president obama says new revenues are a must. >>> and that's why we turn to our political insiders, former mayor willie brown and foeley, and our first question is congress isn't in education. what's going to happen -- in session. what's going to happen when they come back. >> i don't think any of them understand and appreciate what the problem really is because nobody has an exit strategy. nobody has a way out the back door. every're time there's always been -- every other time there's been some way out the back door. you could delay it six weeks, you could pump it here, pump it there. nobody has that kind of strategy. you can't delay. >> reporter: what is it about cuts that the congress just doesn't want to touch. >> nobody wants to touch their pet project, the same as always. the conservatives don't want to touch the military, the liberals don't want to touch the social programs and nobody wants to go there. >> reporter: and there's a stronger constituency, the farmers in this country who get the subsidies for what they don't grow, let me te